It is possible that I will be unable to host this telecon tomorrow without notice. My dog, Sadie, has been at an emergency vet since Friday night and, if things don't improve, my family and I may have to go to say good bye on short notice.

I tried to alter the Zoom meeting to allow an alternate host or to allow participants to join without a host, but those settings appear to be restricted by the ISO account administrator. If I'm unable to attend, I'll leave it up to Peter Brett to decide to host the meeting (assuming I can get it started), or to postpone it until the new year. Obviously, I hope this won't be an issue tomorrow, but if it is, I'll do my best to at least send notice and/or get the meeting started.

Tom.

On 12/8/20 1:29 PM, Tom Honermann via SG16 wrote:

This is your friendly reminder that an SG16 telecon will be held tomorrow, Wednesday December 9th, at 19:30 UTC (timezone conversion).

The original calendar invite for this meeting had a duration of 2 1/2 hours. That was my mistake; the duration is our typical 90 minutes. Thanks to Hubert for alerting me.

This meeting will be conducted via Zoom. To attend, visit https://iso.zoom.us/j/8414530059 at the start of the meeting. Please contact me privately if necessary for the meeting password.

The agenda is:

P2093R2: Formatted output

Continue discussion.

Please review the summary of discussion for P2093R2 at our last telecon and further discussion on the SG16 mailing list starting at https://lists.isocpp.org/sg16/2020/11/1941.php and continued at https://lists.isocpp.org/sg16/2020/12/1950.php. Please enjoy a good belly laugh at the mojibake exhibited there. Prompted by those discussions, please be prepared to discuss:

The association between the (compile-time) execution encoding and the (run-time) locale sensitive system encoding and the proposed use of the (compile-time) execution encoding to affect choice of (run-time) system encoding.

Differing output behavior for various languages; bytes for C, Fortran, Go, Rust and encoded text for Java, C#, Perl, Python. Is this a bytes or text facility?

How transcoding failures should be handled (due to both ill-formed input and (if relevant) non-convertable characters).

How programmers can bypass implicit transcoding in order to format raw bytes; or whether they should be able to.

How transcoding can be separated from the formatting facility; or if it should be.

No decisions are anticipated at this meeting, but direction polls may be taken.

Tom.