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Re: [isocpp-sg16] SG16 mailing list review: Poll forwarding P2758R4 (Emitting messages at compile time) to LEWG

From: Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]>
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 12:46:52 -0500
Thank you for the comments on this thread. There hasn't been much
engagement, so we'll discuss this proposal further in a regular SG16
meeting; hopefully the one scheduled for next week.

On Tuesday, LEWG approved forwarding the paper
<https://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21telecons2025/P2758#Library_Evolution_Telecon-2025-01-21>
contingent on further SG16 review.

  * POLL: Forward P2758R4 to LWG (pending SG16’s approval)
  *
    SF
     F
     N
     A
     SA
    12
     11
     1
     0
     0

  * Attendance: 28
  * Authors’ opinion: SF
  * Outcome: Strong consensus in favor

Tom.

On 1/27/25 4:01 PM, Corentin Jabot via SG16 wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 9:31 PM Alisdair Meredith <alisdairm_at_[hidden]>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Jan 27, 2025, at 3:22 PM, Corentin Jabot via SG16
>> <sg16_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 7:00 PM Tom Honermann via SG16
>> <sg16_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> * Handling of escape sequences needs more
>> specification.*This does not appear to have been addressed.*
>>
>> Meh. Should we want restrictions, they would be the same
>> forstatic_assert, and I tend to see it's purely QOI
>> https://compiler-explorer.com/z/nresK1qrd
>> <https://compiler-explorer.com/z/nresK1qrd>
>
> My thoughts are that we treat the supplied message like an
> unevaluated string.
>
> Quoting [lex.string.uneval]:
>
> > Each universal-character-name and each simple-escape-sequence in
> an unevaluated-string is replaced by the
> > member of the translation character set it denotes. An
> unevaluated-string that contains a numeric-escape-
> > sequence or a conditional-escape-sequence is ill-formed.
>
> My suggestion would be to add “and is processed as an
> unevaluated-string.” To the end of p2 of the library wording.
>
> That should handle making numeric and conditional escape sequences
> ill-formed, and map the universal names and simple escape
> sequences to their corresponding sequence of UTF-8 encoded code
> points.
>
>
> No, unevaluated strings are always UTF-8, and are lexical constructs
> (they are constrained string literals) - So we can't talk about
> unevaluated-strings in library wording.
> What barry proposes takes an expression, which is post phase 6 (ie the
> string is converted to the literal encoding (not necessarily UTF-8),
> escape sequences are replaced by their respective control characters,
> numeric escape sequences are converted to code units and injected, etc)
>
> So I should have been more clear that the question is really whether
> we want to restrict control/non-printable characters rather than
> escape sequences. Sorry about that
>
>
> AlisdairM
>
>

Received on 2025-01-30 17:46:54