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Re: [isocpp-core] Seeking ISO guidance regarding referencing the Unicode Standard in lieu of ISO/IEC 10646.

From: Tom Honermann <tom_at_[hidden]>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 21:35:35 -0500
On 11/8/22 8:26 PM, Hubert Tong via SG16 wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:23 PM Tom Honermann via Core
> <core_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
> On 11/8/22 3:27 PM, Steven R. Loomis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> On Nov 8, 2022, at 1:04 PM, Corentin via SG16
> <sg16_at_[hidden]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Thomas for the quick response.
> >> This is excellent news.
> >> We probably want SG16 to confirm the direction as there were
> some dissident voices.
> >> If we decide to move forward, I'm happy to review the
> terminology/write a paper for that (along with replacing the term
> translation set if SG16) gets consensus on that.
> >>
> >> UCS Scalar value => Unicode scalar value
> >> character (where we do mean character) => abstract character
> >> code point/code unit => unchanged.
> >>
> >> If we think there are definitions in Unicode that lack
> precision, I think we can talk to Unicode folks about improving them.
> >> In the past we have had to ask iso 10646 to align some
> definitions with Unicode as important details were missing,
> >> so lack of clarity wouldn't become a new problem.
> >
> > This was going to be my comment as well.
> >
> > In this discussion and in the linked meeting notes I didn’t see
> concrete examples of exactly how "the Unicode Standard does not
> define terms in the same way and at the same level of precision as
> ISO 10646 does”.
> >
> > Are there some other examples? Thanks!
>
> No specific examples have been raised or discussed as far as I
> know. I
> am going to add this concern as an agenda topic for a future SG16
> telecon. If actionable suggestions for improvements are raised, I'll
> ensure such suggestions are communicated to the Unicode Consortium.
>
>
> I would like to be in attendance when that is discussed. I have noted,
> however, that I have many vacation days to take this year (and will
> likely not be attending SG16 telecons until the new year).

Noted. I will ensure it is scheduled at a time when you are available;
probably after the new year.

I am, understandably I think, disappointed by your choice of priorities! ;)

Tom.

>
> Tom.
>
> >
> > -Steven
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Received on 2022-11-09 02:35:37