Thanks Victor!
And thanks everyone else, we will look at this paper again once an update
is published

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 6:54 PM Victor Zverovich <victor.zverovich_at_[hidden]>
wrote:

> Yeah, I'll look into it and update the paper.
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 3:26 PM Corentin <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 10:03 PM Victor Zverovich <
>> victor.zverovich_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you expect to see in the new paper compared to P2549? I don't
>>> have a strong opinion regarding this issue but can update the paper to
>>> whatever LEWG wants.
>>>
>>
>> Given the change has some support, someone (and it doesn't have to be
>> you) will have to provide some wording for it to be pursued,
>> I guess Peter wants to see some benchmarks and/or a deeper analysis of
>> the tradeoff.
>>
>> Is that something you are volunteering to work on?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 8:55 AM Corentin <corentin.jabot_at_[hidden]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is anyone volunteering to write a paper for that?
>>>> Bonus points for providing an implementation
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 8:08 PM Tomasz Kamiński <tomaszkam_at_[hidden]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>> (Given Tim's example)
>>>>>
>>>>> W dniu 28.03.2022 o 19:09, Inbal Levi via Lib-Ext pisze:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> Today we have a paper in a bit of a different format (😉) -
>>>>> this is an *Info* paper, which the fmt library author wrote to notify
>>>>> LEWG of the current behaviour.
>>>>> Currently there's *no action* suggested in the paper, but we would
>>>>> like the author to *get an indication on the amount of support for
>>>>> the status quo, as well as **whether a change is needed.*
>>>>>
>>>>> P2539R0: Should the output of std::print to a terminal be synchronized
>>>>> with the underlying stream? (wg21.link/P2539)
>>>>> by: Victor Zverovich
>>>>>
>>>>> ***
>>>>> * From the Discussion:*
>>>>> To prevent mojibake std::print may use a native Unicode API when
>>>>> writing to a terminal bypassing the stream buffer. During the review of
>>>>> [P2093]
>>>>> <http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2022/p2539r0.html#biblio-p2093> "Formatted
>>>>> output" Tim Song suggested that synchronizing std::print with the
>>>>> underlying stream may be beneficial for gradual adoption.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Some meta data:*
>>>>>
>>>>> - *Bottom Line: *Neither {fmt} ([FMT]) nor Rust ([RUST-STDIO]) do
>>>>> such synchronization in their implementations of print.
>>>>> - To indicate your opinion on whether a change is needed
>>>>> (reasoning is, of course, welcome):
>>>>> - If you support the status quo (no change): please response
>>>>> with *"No Change"*
>>>>> - If you think a change is needed (synchronize the output with
>>>>> the underlying steam): please response* "+1"*
>>>>>
>>>>> ***
>>>>>
>>>>> * Weekly reviews improve quality!*
>>>>> Running weekly reviews allows more iterations on each proposal, which
>>>>> hopefully, in turn, will result in more accurate and subtle fixes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for taking the time to review the proposal,
>>>>> and have a great week!
>>>>>
>>>>> Inbal Levi
>>>>>
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