On 8/13/2020 11:08 AM, Uecker, Martin wrote:
To me a merger seems difficult. I fear that C would loose its 
identity and essentially cease to exist. 
C is is maintained by a separate working group, has 
different use cases, and serves a different group of users. 
I can not see that this can work if it also is required
to be a subset of C++.


A merger would obviously be difficult. There are differences in overlapping - but incompatible - feature sets and in the text of the standards. Two decades ago, I thought a merger would be technically feasible; now I am not so sure.

That was 20 years ago; much have changed since.

People talk about C's "separate identity" and (as above) C "has different use cases, and serves a different group of users" from C++. I have never seen C's separate identity clearly articulated, nor have I seen articulation of fundamental reasons for there being separate use cases. Such articulation might simplify the discussions about which incompatibilities are deliberate and essential and which are accidental.

For attempted characterizations of what C++ is and should ideally be, see

On the other hand, I consider the value of compatibility obvious. Even in this thread, people have been surprised about differences in the standards.

Sometimes, my comments about compatibility are taken as attacks on C or displays of ignorance. They are not. I built C++ on C and few C programmers today have written a C program that doesn't critically depend on some of my work. I was a friend of DMR and still see BWK fairly frequently. The compiler used for the code in K&R2 was written by me - and all the code was in the C/C++ common subset. However, I do not think that either C or C++ are perfect, so I comment on flaws; such comments are not attacks on C or C++ (though of course they could reflect misunderstandings), but the first steps to potential improvements.