Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 19:24:08 +0200
Hej Keld,
I don't know why you assume we have the user/password info, from where
should we have it?
We, sc21, have the one for wiki.edg.com, but nobody knows anything about
the C wiki. that's why i started this theard / question here.
But anyhow, if there is nothing to see, and it never will, its not worth
to dig into it.
I will share this info at our AG09 Working-group Meeting on Monday,
so nobody needs to be afraid to miss anything
Thanks and regards, Harald
On 2024-05-28 14:42, keld--- via Liaison wrote:
> thanks to inform me, something must have gone wrong since i was not informed before
> i am active via ds danish standards
> but i am still in sis tk504 for jtc1 sc35 where i am editor of a number of standards,
> incl 30112, 9995-12 and others.
> anyway you should have the pw for wg14 and wg21 - not much there, we use to run as open we can within
> jtc1 rules.
>
> keld
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 08:56:15PM +0200, Harald Achitz via Liaison wrote:
>> Hej Keld
>>
>> Yes, the Swedish JTC1/SC22 mirror exists, and we pay to SIS
>>
>> The mirror is called TK611/AG09 at SIS, see
>> https://www.sis.se/standardutveckling/tksidor/tk600699/sistk-611/
>> the AG09 field there
>>
>> I initiated it during the corona time, when meetup activity was paused
>> and I had time,
>> also talked about it at our meetup,
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINPCDj47nI
>>
>> We have quite a few members in the C++ expert group, some in the C and
>> one or two in SC22/WG23 from the automotive industry.
>>
>>
>> I am the convener of the local mirror, and self member in the local C++
>> and also C expert group
>> Even if I consider myself not that much an expert, but I see myself as a
>> representative of the users. So I am more observer and help others to do
>> work in our mirror.
>>
>> If SIS has missed anything, what might be the case, because our contact
>> there is very nice and very helpful but sometimes confused about how
>> things are handled in the C and C++ world, please let me know.
>>
>> I am registered at SIS with my company mail, harald at hands-development
>> dot se
>> and our sis contact is patric.ridell at sis do se
>>
>> You can contact us with those mails, if that's a better place to
>> continue the discussion.
>>
>> Thank you for your help!
>>
>> Regards, Harald
>>
>> On 2024-05-24 17:37, keld--- via Liaison wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 07:59:28AM -0400, Aaron Ballman via Liaison wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 2:26???PM Harald Achitz via Liaison
>>>> <liaison_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Some members of our local national mirror asked me about those two links
>>>>> on
>>> i am not aware that a national swedish mirror existed. are you official?
>>> do yoy pay to sis?
>>> i used to be the swediah representative in wg21, wg14 and posix austin
>>> group, as sweden was an o-member of sc22
>>> bur we stopped that membership as i was the only interested after
>>> europen.se dissolved and stopped being a member of sis/tk504.
>>> this was sis/tk504. my contact person is Jolanta.Wallstrom_at_[hidden]
>>>>> https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/
>>>>>
>>>>> New WG wiki (protected, only for members)
>>>>> WG internal information (protected, only for members)
>>>>>
>>>>> The first one, New WG wiki, https://www.open-std.org/twiki/bin/view/WG14
>>>>> , gives a Not Found
>>> where did you get this address from, it is not official.
>>> yes it is not updated and should be removed. i should remove it
>>> i still have some rights on https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/ -
>>> it is my site
>>>
>>>> Yes, I think this link can actually be removed from the committee
>>>> site; as best I can tell, there's no twiki available and hasn't been
>>>> one in ages.
>>>>
>>>>> The second, WG Internal information,
>>>>> https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/prot/ , requires user and
>>>>> password.
>>>> Correct, you have to be a member of WG14 to view the contents of that
>>>> directory. FWIW, the directory doesn't contain anything of importance:
>>>> some older drafts of standards (better sources can be found on the
>>>> Projects page), pictures from some past committee meetings, older
>>>> standards used as reference materials for older C standards, and many
>>>> broken links.
>>>>
>>>> ~Aaron
>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure how WG14 works, but as convener of the local SC22 mirror I
>>>>> am motivated to help to answer those questions, and I thought someone
>>>>> here, in the liason group, might be able to help me providing the
>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone knows how that works or whom to ask, please let me know so
>>>>> I can forward the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Harald
>>> it seems like sis has not done its proper work...
>>> we can help bringing it in order
>>>
>>> keld
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I don't know why you assume we have the user/password info, from where
should we have it?
We, sc21, have the one for wiki.edg.com, but nobody knows anything about
the C wiki. that's why i started this theard / question here.
But anyhow, if there is nothing to see, and it never will, its not worth
to dig into it.
I will share this info at our AG09 Working-group Meeting on Monday,
so nobody needs to be afraid to miss anything
Thanks and regards, Harald
On 2024-05-28 14:42, keld--- via Liaison wrote:
> thanks to inform me, something must have gone wrong since i was not informed before
> i am active via ds danish standards
> but i am still in sis tk504 for jtc1 sc35 where i am editor of a number of standards,
> incl 30112, 9995-12 and others.
> anyway you should have the pw for wg14 and wg21 - not much there, we use to run as open we can within
> jtc1 rules.
>
> keld
>
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 08:56:15PM +0200, Harald Achitz via Liaison wrote:
>> Hej Keld
>>
>> Yes, the Swedish JTC1/SC22 mirror exists, and we pay to SIS
>>
>> The mirror is called TK611/AG09 at SIS, see
>> https://www.sis.se/standardutveckling/tksidor/tk600699/sistk-611/
>> the AG09 field there
>>
>> I initiated it during the corona time, when meetup activity was paused
>> and I had time,
>> also talked about it at our meetup,
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iINPCDj47nI
>>
>> We have quite a few members in the C++ expert group, some in the C and
>> one or two in SC22/WG23 from the automotive industry.
>>
>>
>> I am the convener of the local mirror, and self member in the local C++
>> and also C expert group
>> Even if I consider myself not that much an expert, but I see myself as a
>> representative of the users. So I am more observer and help others to do
>> work in our mirror.
>>
>> If SIS has missed anything, what might be the case, because our contact
>> there is very nice and very helpful but sometimes confused about how
>> things are handled in the C and C++ world, please let me know.
>>
>> I am registered at SIS with my company mail, harald at hands-development
>> dot se
>> and our sis contact is patric.ridell at sis do se
>>
>> You can contact us with those mails, if that's a better place to
>> continue the discussion.
>>
>> Thank you for your help!
>>
>> Regards, Harald
>>
>> On 2024-05-24 17:37, keld--- via Liaison wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 07:59:28AM -0400, Aaron Ballman via Liaison wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 2:26???PM Harald Achitz via Liaison
>>>> <liaison_at_[hidden]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Some members of our local national mirror asked me about those two links
>>>>> on
>>> i am not aware that a national swedish mirror existed. are you official?
>>> do yoy pay to sis?
>>> i used to be the swediah representative in wg21, wg14 and posix austin
>>> group, as sweden was an o-member of sc22
>>> bur we stopped that membership as i was the only interested after
>>> europen.se dissolved and stopped being a member of sis/tk504.
>>> this was sis/tk504. my contact person is Jolanta.Wallstrom_at_[hidden]
>>>>> https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/
>>>>>
>>>>> New WG wiki (protected, only for members)
>>>>> WG internal information (protected, only for members)
>>>>>
>>>>> The first one, New WG wiki, https://www.open-std.org/twiki/bin/view/WG14
>>>>> , gives a Not Found
>>> where did you get this address from, it is not official.
>>> yes it is not updated and should be removed. i should remove it
>>> i still have some rights on https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/ -
>>> it is my site
>>>
>>>> Yes, I think this link can actually be removed from the committee
>>>> site; as best I can tell, there's no twiki available and hasn't been
>>>> one in ages.
>>>>
>>>>> The second, WG Internal information,
>>>>> https://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG14/prot/ , requires user and
>>>>> password.
>>>> Correct, you have to be a member of WG14 to view the contents of that
>>>> directory. FWIW, the directory doesn't contain anything of importance:
>>>> some older drafts of standards (better sources can be found on the
>>>> Projects page), pictures from some past committee meetings, older
>>>> standards used as reference materials for older C standards, and many
>>>> broken links.
>>>>
>>>> ~Aaron
>>>>
>>>>> I am not sure how WG14 works, but as convener of the local SC22 mirror I
>>>>> am motivated to help to answer those questions, and I thought someone
>>>>> here, in the liason group, might be able to help me providing the
>>>>> information.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if anyone knows how that works or whom to ask, please let me know so
>>>>> I can forward the info.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Harald
>>> it seems like sis has not done its proper work...
>>> we can help bringing it in order
>>>
>>> keld
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Liaison mailing list
>>> Liaison_at_[hidden]
>>> Subscription: https://lists.isocpp.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/liaison
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