Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 09:43:03 +0200
Hello,
perhaps we can get on track for a more technical discussion, for which
I think that this reflector and the study group were created. There
are excellent forums out there where people heatedly debate advantages
of their favorite programming languages.
The discussion about multi-dimensions array subscripts has brought to
light that at least one incompatibility in the grammar between C and
C++ has newly been created with C++20, namely that the subscript
operator in C++ only accepts "assignment-expression" and not general
"expression" as is still in C17. If that would been done now, that
would be a typical subject of discussion for this SG, I think.
The other recent incompatibility I am aware of is Martin Uecker's
proposal in C23 for relaxing the places where labels may occur. As far
as I understand there is effort on bringing that to C++, too.
Another field of concern could be selection and iteration statements
where C++ has expanded the grammar by adding the possibility of
declaring variables, similar as to `for`. I personally like that
feature very much, but I wouldn't know if WG14 is ready for it, yet.
In any case it would be good to know if these changes in C++ have
introduced other changes in the grammar for these constructs, similar
to what we have seen for the subscript operator.
I personally would find it a good thing if we could change all
controlling expressions of selection and iteration statements to
"conditional-expression". Yes, this would be change that would
invalidate some existing code, but in a good way ;-) Using a comma
operator or assignment then would be a hard error and it would be easy
for programmers to update their code.
Jāāā
perhaps we can get on track for a more technical discussion, for which
I think that this reflector and the study group were created. There
are excellent forums out there where people heatedly debate advantages
of their favorite programming languages.
The discussion about multi-dimensions array subscripts has brought to
light that at least one incompatibility in the grammar between C and
C++ has newly been created with C++20, namely that the subscript
operator in C++ only accepts "assignment-expression" and not general
"expression" as is still in C17. If that would been done now, that
would be a typical subject of discussion for this SG, I think.
The other recent incompatibility I am aware of is Martin Uecker's
proposal in C23 for relaxing the places where labels may occur. As far
as I understand there is effort on bringing that to C++, too.
Another field of concern could be selection and iteration statements
where C++ has expanded the grammar by adding the possibility of
declaring variables, similar as to `for`. I personally like that
feature very much, but I wouldn't know if WG14 is ready for it, yet.
In any case it would be good to know if these changes in C++ have
introduced other changes in the grammar for these constructs, similar
to what we have seen for the subscript operator.
I personally would find it a good thing if we could change all
controlling expressions of selection and iteration statements to
"conditional-expression". Yes, this would be change that would
invalidate some existing code, but in a good way ;-) Using a comma
operator or assignment then would be a hard error and it would be easy
for programmers to update their code.
Jāāā
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