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Re: [wg14/wg21 liaison] Fwd: native_handle_type

From: Elias Kosunen <isocpp_at_[hidden]>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 15:00:29 +0300
Ville was right earlier in the thread; the scope of P1759R1 is very limited.

> All the proposal is proposing is the addition of a nested
native_handle_type and getters for such into iostreams types.
> There's no universal handle type being proposed ...
> It's not a portable-semantics native handle type either.
> All it does is that it allows me to get a native handle from, say,
fstream, and pass that handle along to, say fcntl.

On 8/20/19 1:29 PM, Niall Douglas via Liaison wrote:
> On 19/08/2019 19:04, Billy O'Neal (VC LIBS) via Liaison wrote:
>> LEWGi looked at this in Cologne and said that they don’t want it, so I’m
>> not sure it’s appropriate to bug WG14 at this time:
>> http://wiki.edg.com/bin/view/Wg21cologne2019/P1759
> That vote appears to have assumed an ABI breaking replacement of
> std::thread::native_handle_type etc.

The results of that poll were affected by multiple factors:
  * there was no paper arguing for it, and due to that, the exact
motivation and semantics were unclear
  * I couldn't make Niall's case as well as he might've been able to
  * implementation concerns due to a possible ABI break associated with
adding new members to an union

Should there be a paper arguing for this, with a solution for that third
bullet, I wouldn't see the vote going as negatively as it did back in July.


Received on 2019-08-20 07:02:33